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Students fear possible eviction

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Published: Thursday, September 10, 2009

Updated: Sunday, September 13, 2009

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Members of the Pi Kappa Phi fraternity feel attacked by the "Animal House" ordinance.

Off-campus students already fear possible eviction from their homes after multiple quality-of-life violation tickets were issued by the South Orange Police in the first week of the fall semester.

Due to frequent disruptive conduct and many complaints in residential neighborhoods, the South Orange Board of Trustees adopted an ordinance commonly known as the “Animal House” law on July 27 that imposes sanctions on landlords who do not evict tenants repeatedly violating quality-of-life-laws.

The ordinance stipulates landlords who fail to evict tenants convicted of more than one violation per year face a minimum fine of $500 or possible revocation of rental license.
Violations of quality-of-life laws fall under conviction for disorderly, indecent, tumultuous or riotous conduct, including simple assault, assault, terroristic threats, harassment, urinating or defecating in public, lewdness, criminal mischief and crimes against property or excessive noise.

Off-campus students are angry about the ordinance because they feel it specifically targets college students when it states that the cause for the ruling is “due to the presence of numerous university students in the community, a condition present in relatively few communities.”

Senior Mike Dinneny, who rents a house on Seton Place with five of his brothers from Pi Kappa Phi, said he fears his possible eviction because his house received a noise violation at 9 p.m. on the first weekend of the fall semester after his neighbors called the police.

“As a student that has lived off-campus within a South Orange community for three years, it is a disgrace to watch a blatant act of discrimination occur,” he said.

Dinneny and his roommates have already found a new house to move into if they are evicted from their home.

Robyn Brody-Kaplan lives on Seton Place as well with her partner and three children under 6 years old.  She said the excessive noise problem on her block has grown worse within the past two years when her neighbors began waking her children up between 11 p.m. and 3 a.m.

"When we hear noise and we hear parties, we just call the cops because it’s a residential neighborhood and they’re waking up our children,” Brody-Kaplan said. “Literally last night our little girl woke up at 12:30 a.m. or quarter to 1 and she’s like, ‘Mommy, I can’t sleep, there are people outside talking.’”

According to senior Steve White, who also rents a house on Seton Place, the time of day is not always an issue when receiving a sound violation.

White said he had about 15 friends over the first weekend of fall semester when a police officer showed up at his door around 7 p.m. and with no explanation gave him a noise violation due to a complaining neighbor.  

“It’s not even a party situation, we’re not even nervous for that,” White said. “We’re just nervous on a day-to-day basis on everything because we can’t even listen to music in the house too loud (or) watch TV too loud.”  

Senior Andy Spentzos lives on Grove Street with his brothers from Phi Kappa Sigma. The students received a noise violation in their rented house around 10:30 p.m. on the first weekend of the fall semester.

“Although we do live in a big house and we do have a lot of people around, we keep the noise under control after having that first scare,” Spentzos said.

“It’s not like I’m defecating on people’s lawns or doing all these weird trashy things… we’re just enjoying ourselves as college students… having a few drinks …hanging with a few friends and there are time where things get out of control and too loud, but that’s the place of living by a University.”

Village President Douglas Newman said that the ordinance was not made to attack college students specifically.
“When doing a local law, you have to have a statement of findings as to why you’re even going down the path of doing something,” Newman said. “It’s important because you have to establish what bothered even pursuing an ordinance in the first place if you don’t have a reason that’s different from perhaps a different town.”

Newman said the difference in South Orange is that it is home to a university, which makes it unique.

However, because the ordinance penalizes college students, many of those who live in off-campus housing are beginning to wonder what Seton Hall’s role in the matter is.
Vice President for Student Affairs and Enrollment Services Laura Wankel said she would be “hard pressed” to think that there wasn’t a relationship between Seton Hall students and the ordinance.

However she said she thinks “it’s unfortunate that there’s a perception that the University has done nothing  because in fact… for many years now (the University) has been very involved with managing off-campus behavior of students and that to me is a critical component that seems to be lost in much of the media coverage.”

Wankel said the University receives police reports on a daily basis of any arrests or interventions that involve a Seton Hall student.  In 2007, 102 reports were received from the South Orange Police Departments and in 2008 only 68 reports were received.
“If you look at the math of it all it would seem that maybe 1,000 to 1,200 students live off campus,” Wankel said. She said it’s important to compare the number of violations to the number of off-campus residents.

One frustration Wankel said she has with the ordinance is the “Animal House” stereotype. “(The Ordinance) has painted an appearance of the Seton Hall student that is truly the exception rather than the typical,” she said.

Not all South Orange residents support the ordinance and its stereotype.
Ralston Morris who lives on Seton Place said he thinks the ordinance is ridiculous.
“I went to college too, and to be forced to leave my house just because I had a little too much noise at my party just seems excessive,” Morris said. “That’s totally unfair to both the landlord and the student.”

Wankel said the University has done a fair amount to try and reach and work with campus students to educate them on two fronts, “not only what their responsibilities are to be good neighbors but also what some of their rights are.”

EDITOR'S NOTE: You can view the ordinance in PDF format, courtesy of the Township of South Orange Village website, by viewing our "Links" page.

Carolyn Maso can be reached at carolyn.maso@student.shu.edu.

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Duderonomy
Wed Sep 16 2009 19:17
No one...NO ONE...has suggested 7pm as a time to shut down your fun. I'd be happy with 11pm. How's that for compromise.

Regarding the windows, these old houses don't have central air so, until it gets cold, that's not an option.

Compromise comes from BOTH sides. What are YOU prepared to give up?

Your name
Wed Sep 16 2009 18:48
Duderonomy - Were you born 40, 50 or 60 years old? Do you remember what you/your life was like when you were 18-23 years old? Plenty different from what it is now I hope.

You want the streets to roll up at 7, that isn't reasonable nor will it happen. I'm not suggesting that all keg parties be nmoved to your home either. There has to be a happy medium. I have suggested this in the past, you just refuse to believe it. I have suggested that more college friendly places in town that would attract the SHU students would draw them down there because there would be something to do and someplace to go. This would decrease the number of house parties that apparently take place.

You got offended when I suggested closing your window if you are a light sleeper! You don't even want to close a blessed window! What will please you? I suggest you turn that mirror around and after you read that last line then ask yourself when you became so self-centered.

Remember, if you aren't part of the solution you are part of the problem.

Duderonomy
Wed Sep 16 2009 18:00
Most villagers either have jobs or children in school so they do not have the luxury of hanging out until 3am on a weeknight. Why is this hard to you to realize. Being well-rested to perform the work for which you are compensated hardly resonates as "sleeping your life away."

"A lot of village people here have too much of a "me, me, me" attitude. You have to be willing to compromise and most of you don't seem to want any part of that. " Stand in front of a mirror whilst you say this and see if you can recognize the irony.

Your name
Wed Sep 16 2009 17:10
"Yep, sequester yourselves because the night belongs to the students. "

I guess you would prefer the Village impose a curfew of 6 pm with lights out for everyone at 7? Just because you want to sleep away your life uninterupted does not mean the rest of the world wants to or should tip-toe around you. What is so wrong with closing your windows if you are a light sleeper and a hiccup 5 miles away wakes you? Shut your window and get some sleep while the rest of the world goes about their lives. Just because you want to go to bed early doesn't mean the rest of us do.

A lot of village people here have too much of a "me, me, me" attitude. You have to be willing to compromise and most of you don't seem to want any part of that.

Duderonomy
Wed Sep 16 2009 10:03
"And for the incredibly light sleepers in town, might I suggest you close your windows at 7 when you turn in for the night? "

Yep, sequester yourselves because the night belongs to the students.

Your name
Wed Sep 16 2009 09:48
AAA - Early on in this thread there certainly were anit-Catholic posts. Seems they have since been deleted. There were also posts (also since deleted) advocating for physical harm to be thrust upon Seton Hall students. Great group of adults we have here in South Orange isn't it?

Gardner - I have no idea why the gates were originally put up but if the village was safer maybe there wouldn't be a need to put up gates. Students get mugged all the time off campus. Do you honestly think it is a good idea to take down the gates and let this element wander the campus? SHU doesn't have control over what happens on the streets of South Orange but they can keep their students as safe as possible on campus. Because of what wanders the streets of South Orange, I'm sure the gates help to accomplish this. No one ever said you were unwelcome or not allowed to visit the campus. Quit crying and trying to play off that you can only look through the gates at the campus!

Residents have to realize that Seton Hall is a private university and not some state school. Your tax dollars DO NOT support anything at Seton Hall, tuition dollars paid by students do that. Therefore, crying that you want to basically have all of the rights and opportunities that students do is ridiculous. Attending Seton Hall is a privilege, not a right, please keep that in mind. And please, quit crying about taxes as they relate to SHU. Seton Hall pays PILOTS and does contribute to the village. Also remember that SHU DOES NOT have to pay taxes or PILOTS so maybe you should be thankful, especially in these economic times, that SHU is a responsible neighbor.

From a number of comments here (some which have thankfully since been deleted like those noted above) I can only conclude that some residents were either rejected for admission or their kids were. It is deplorable that people in this town are anti-Catholic and want to see bodily harm inflicted on students (that shouldn't happen to ANYONE!). Also, do not question the educational rigor or reputation of SHU when you clearly are unaware of it. Just because you like to make things up does not make them true.

The university and the village should work together though from the posts here it seems like more of the students want that than residents. Someone suggested that SHU buy up a street, I'd love to know which neighbors are willing to give up there homes to further that cause! I'd love to see it but I don't think it would happen overnight. Maybe if there were university friendly businesses and things to do in town students would congregate there instead of homes in residential areas. With the numerous empty storefronts that don't seem to house businesses that keep the attention of the locals maybe it's time to try something new? Unless of course you like the empty storefronts (which I'm sure some here would prefer over something geared toward making students feel welcome).

And for the incredibly light sleepers in town, might I suggest you close your windows at 7 when you turn in for the night?

An actual adult
Tue Sep 15 2009 12:23
We've now delved into non-sense.

Compromise is required on ALL sides. Off-campus residence does not absolve a student from being civically responsible. SHU students are AMBASSADORs for their school. I applaud all of the good things that students do for our community, but students should also be held accountable for actions that violate the standards of the village they have chosen to dwell in.

Pray tell, how does that come off as Anti-Catholic?

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Tue Sep 15 2009 12:21
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glad im leaving
Tue Sep 15 2009 02:35
After reading all these comments, I can only come up with one conclusion. These residents who are fighting to wipe out all off campus life from this college town have forgot what it was like when they were our age. If I had to guess, many of these residents against Seton Hall students lack a college degree. If they every went to college they would know that this is what college kids do. They never got the opportunity to have a chance like us SHU students have so they figure we should'nt get one either.
StudentPower
Mon Sep 14 2009 18:34
My only wish and desire for every resident of SO is that your children face local residents such as yourselves when they go to college. May your children have to face the same faces and comments of hate that you spew at SHU students. A reminder: SHU was in SO long before any of you were alive or CHOSE to move to SO.

Finally, I think one comment here revealed part of the problem. I'll bet that many SO residents are anti-Catholic. The media never reports it, but anti-catholicism runs rampant.

Your name
Mon Sep 14 2009 16:32
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Your name
Mon Sep 14 2009 16:21
South Orange and Seton Hall deserve each other. Two over-priced, corrupt, arrogant and downright trashy entities in denial of the steep decline they are a part of.

I can't believe I still owe sallie mae for my Seton Hall college "experience."

Bernie Madoff's clients get more return on investment than I have.

Seton Place Resident
Mon Sep 14 2009 15:32
I have lived on Seton Place for 10 years - when we came here there were no student rentals on our street; now there are six houses rented to students on my block alone. Four of the six cause no problems at all. The other two do. I've no objections to parties at the weekends but thursday nights have gotten totally out of hand - yelling and shouting outside my window at 1 or 2 a.m. when I have to be up by 6 a.m. is more than a little annoying. If it was just the occasional thursday it would be okay; I could put up with that, but it's every single thursday. I'm sick of having to go to work exhausted every friday because I keep getting woken up by noisy students. A little consideration would go a long way... keep the partying to the weekends, and if you must blare the music late at night then close the windows so we don't all have to hear it. Thanks.
Your name
Mon Sep 14 2009 14:49
Speaking on behalf of the Seton Hall community, I would appreciate if you stop disrespecting my university.
concerned citizen
Mon Sep 14 2009 11:23
South Orange is the busiest station on the midtown direct line. If you think this town would die if it didn't have SHU, you should perhaps take one of your university's public planning courses. Not only would South Orange not die, but yuppie commuters--the kind who have to get up early and go to work every day, so therefore will not be disrupting their neighborhood at night--would move into their rentals and would likely make delightful neighbors. Most people who live here would not shed a tear if SHU disappeared into thin air. The town would have a huge chunk of taxable property back, residential taxes would drop, there would be peace and quiet, and all would be right with the world.
StudentPower
Sun Sep 13 2009 22:20
Now wouldn't it be great if SHU bought that Beifus property and build an academic building, athletic facility or some other buidling that would create a lot of pedestrian traffic. Those pedestrians would bring lots of revenue to the somewhat morbund SO business district. But SO would probably have a knee-jerk reaction and start playing legal zoinging law games.

Frankly, if SO and SOPD don't cool it, sooner or later they are going to get slapped with massive lawsuit that residents will be paying off for next 30 years.

Will's Kid
Sun Sep 13 2009 21:34
AAA - The Beifus site was an eyesore long before he went into bankruptcy! Everyone knows that. This is just the most recent excuse for the condition of the property.

And no, that is not what I want for SHU. Let's be serious shall we?

Don't Worry About It
Sun Sep 13 2009 18:49
What everyone's missing here is how ridiculously broad this ordinance is. It skims over a lot of the ways one can received a violation, and thus gives the powers that be an unchecked authority -- all of which is supreme discrimination, since the ordinance is 100% targeted towards students and students alone.

I have no problem punishing troublemakers -- but you need a rigid, clear set of laws/rules, not some thrown together tripe that leaves the window open for some kids to get evicted because his discriminatory neighbor reports them for noise 5 times a week just to get the job done.

An actual adult
Sun Sep 13 2009 17:32
And you would surmise incorrectly.

Beifus is in bankruptcy; is that how you'd like to see SHU?

My only desire is for mutual respect. Adults need to know how to behave accordingly in a neighborhood. End of story.

Will's Kid
Sun Sep 13 2009 12:02
AAA - Again, my initial post was in response to Nicole's post that said SHU added nothing to South Orange. Keeping up one's appearance by maintaining one's property adds to the village. What does the Beifus lot add to South Orange except for an eyesore? Seems like Beifus is shirking their responsibility while SHU adds to the community by taking care of and maintaining their properties.

If you read my whole post then I'm sure you sure you also saw where I suggested that Seton Hall students and employees bypass businesses in town and take their shopping dollars to other towns where they would be better appreciated. From your post I can only surmise that you want Seton Hall to keep up their properties in town (and they should, I never meant to imply they shouldn't) but that they (the SHU community as a whole) should stay out of the town. Again, more of that welcoming attitude that South Orange is famous for!

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